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  Hubby found out about me celebrating my kids birthday...

  by cognac in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  told on me of course.

  apparently, the other jw thought he was kidding.. i just said, you tell on me and take my family from me, we are done.

  we will get a divorce and you will lose me, your home, and more then likely won't get to see your kids everyday the way you get to now.

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  jean-luc picard

  More to the point: did your children have a great time?
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  My JW best friend is bringing a 'heavy' around to my house to talk some sense into me.

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i agreed, if only because i want to see my friend of many years.

  the 'heavy' is a large, imposing man with a booming voice and is a creature of the gb through and thru (eg only visited his dfd dad on his death bed because it was a 'good witness' to the hospital staff) and i'm feeling stressed about seeing him.

  i so badly wanted to see my friend though, i agreed without thinking and now wish i hadn't have.

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  jean-luc picard

  Hi Julia.

  Sorry to hear about your bad day.

  Looking back on your first post, your reasons for fading were,

  first of all for your husband and

  then so as not to lose your friends.

  I think you now know that not losing your jw friends is not a realistic option. A poster recently said, that in his experience, this is true for no matter what friends made through no matter what common interest group.

  It seems that your husband is on the same track as you. You'll now go on to make new friends, who will bring you new and sometimes exciting experiences in your lives. Enjoy that. Try not to be angry at your old friends. Its just that your growing and moving on.......and they're not.

  Good luck. Tomorrow will be better.

  jlp
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  why i left the witnesses..

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have recently been thinking about this as it was a big life changing decision.

  only now do i realize it wasnt about doctrine.. the reason was because i wasnt happy and didnt respect the elders and the congregation was made up of unhappy people.. i was always being lectured for being happy.

  when i had a study that came to the meeting i thought thats a good thing, and i was happy.

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  I think, now that you mention it NHAH, that I left for the same reasons.

  Its true, we are alot happier out of the borg than in.
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  Many ex-JWs have never read Combating Cult Mind Control

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the general public knows far too little about cults and mind control...and this is reflective of many ex-jws as well.

  when i meet up with former jws, either in person or on the phone, im surprised that the majority have never read combating cult mind control.

  of course, i am sure many former jws do not want to read yet another publication.

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  Many ex-JWs have never read Combating Cult Mind Control

  otherwise it would be a best seller.

  Joking aside Londo, you make a good point.

  jlp.
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  My Story - a (kinda) newbie from the UK

  by wizzstick in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after lurking for 7 and half years (is that a record?!

  ) its time for me to say hello.. so who am i, and whats my story?.

  im a born in jw, with all my siblings, mother, wife and children in.

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  jean-luc picard

  Welcome to the board wizzstick.

  I missed the 1995 thing as it was the year I stopped going.

  Its funny to think we used to ask "how many years have you been in THE TRUTH brother?" when in fact it is now obvious that it was THE LIE
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  IS YOUR TEACHING UP-TO-DATE? - (WT Study Article for June 3-9, 2013)

  by Oubliette in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the watchtower study article for last week, june 3rd - 9th, 2013, the congregation was asked the question, "is your teaching up-to-date?".

  there was a box on the top of page 9 that asked three questions allowing everyone to test themselves and find out if they had "up-to-date" and "accurate knowledge" in keeping with the "the ever-increasing light" as revealed through the pages of the watchtower magazine and related publications.

  now at first blush this all sounds really good, but is it?

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  I think it would be ironic to study " The TRUTH that leads to eternal life" with someone today.

  And to think they bragged that it was a worlds best seller at the time. Maybe everybody should ask for their money back.
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  God will forgive me....apparently

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i left the jws and went to a baptist church which was far better than anything i'd known before having been born into the dangerous cult of the watchtower corporation.. having travelled a path of spirituallity i have concluded that there is no god evident to me.

  evolution?

  i have no idea...i just live my life knowing that when i die there is nothing after it.

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  For many years, I could not bring myself to say " there is no god".

  I had a Catholic work colleague who told me the same.

  But with the passing years, I now can say it: "There is no God, otherwise he would have ............"

  There: I've gone and said it. Jean-Luc has come out of the closet.
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  Should all elders be painted with the same brush?

  by Socrateswannabe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  an hour or two ago, i was reading a topic on this forum that welcomed new elders to jwn.

  there was some criticism aimed at the op and i understand that elders shouldn't be singled out as special.

  one poster said he/she hates all elders.

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  jean-luc picard

  An interesting thread Socrates.

  In answer to your question: certainly not.

  I think, in fact, that most of the male members on the board, have served as an elder.

  It is as an elder, that you really see what goes on behind the scenes, what is said, how they react, ect. Even though the R&F can guess, as an eleder you actually SEE it. And for a good number, they are disgusted, and disappointed.

  Yours is a difficult situation I have seen it before. You know, of course , that you will not succeed in changing them. Even the much awaited CO "he will sort it out!" can do very little.

  I wish you lots of strength in the meantime. On the board you can vent freely at least. You will find some who disagree with you, but many who understand from personal experience.

  Good luck with your family.

  jlp
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  Jotham Article for Children...

  by losingit in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am disfellowshipped, separated from my husband, and have been "lurking" for some time.

  only because i was so unbelievably lonely for being disfellowshipped, i was missing my "friends" terribly, did i even bump into this site.

  i googled "lonely and disfellowshipped" and a stream of experiences appeared on the screen.

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  jean-luc picard

  Welcome to the forum loseingit.

  It is sad to here your story, though so many have had similar experiences.

  Your pseudonym says alot. However, I hope, and it is altogether possible, that in the future you will look back on this choice with a smile, realising just how far you've come. In the meantime, you will find friends here, some who you will sympathise with more than others.

  And the beauty is, this site is active 24 hours a day. You can always find someone on line.

  Good luck with your future, and again, welcome.

  jlp
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  Julia gets hit with the Shun Gun for the first time...and it really hurts.

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my jw friend of 20 years, the first one i ever met, the one who got me into jwism in the first place, unfriended me from facebook without explanation.

  other jws who have unfriended me at least called me names (apostate) and told me they were unfriending me, but they were no loss.

  but someone who's been your friend since you were 13...and no explanation...i'd think 20 years- 20 years!

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  jean-luc picard

  Hi Julia.

  I'm sorry to hear of your experience, though it was bound to come sooner or later.

  I am somewhat surprised at the rapidity, as it seems from your posts that you are just in the early stages of fading.

  I have been out years now. 15 years ago, the law was: you shun people, AFTER a talk has been given from the plateform, and you "understand" who it applys to.

  The same for disfellowshipping. You were not disfellowshipped until after the announcement was made from the plateform, which was no sooner than 7 days after the judicial committee, (a time period which allows for you to appeal).

  There are alot of rules in the elders manual on procedure, which is rather amusing for a religion, don't you think?

  What really angered me most, was that no one, not even the elders respected these procedures when I was disfellowshipped. I knew I was going to be, and had no objection. I was no longer ready to live by the tenets of the wtbts. I did not go to the jc. No point.

  But they did not respect their own laws and regulations. Maybe those regulations have changed ( new light) or maybe your " friend" isn't respecting them either.